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Post  Admin Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:04 am




Friday 19 September 2014
| 07:45




Ibrahim al-Jaafari said the "Middle East" that "Daash" globalized .. we do not want the children of others to fight instead of our children

"Middle East"
Before heading from Paris to New York to participate in a meeting of the Security Council on Iraq today and the work of the General Assembly of the United Nations, met with «Middle East» Iraqi Foreign Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari at length in his residence in the French capital and conducted with newly comprehensive focus mainly on the situation in Iraq and its repercussions and conferences successive, and most recently the Paris conference and international support and contexts and a link to the Iraqi and Syrian situations. Promised Jaafari, who has previously served as Prime Minister of Iraq, the «Daash» Organization «globalized», and that Iraq today is «first trench in the face (Daash), but it is not the final trench». Therefore, Iraq wants to help, but he «does not want the children of others» to defend their land, but expressed the need for air cover, weapons and logistical support to the outer commensurate with «the size of the challenge». Jaafari also called on to provide humanitarian assistance and reconstruction of areas which could be hundreds of thousands of displaced people to return to their homes. And eighth-Jaafari Jeddah Conference to support Iraq and attitudes expressed by Prince Saud al-Faisal, the Saudi foreign minister, stressing that the above-mentioned conference «the form of a sharp turn» in the Gulf and the Arab position towards the Iraqi file. The following is the text of the interview:
* There are two important meetings in the UN Security Council: the first on Friday at the invitation of Secretary of State John Kerry, whose country holds the Security Council, and the second on 24 at the invitation of President Barack Obama .. what your expectations from these meetings? Will have to wait for the outcome of a particular process after the Paris conference?

- We promise that the Paris conference is the second episode after the first episode, which was preceded by an episode of Jeddah. What comes after the Paris ring New York. All of these activities revolve around the brutal attack carried out by «Daash» and display of the occupation of Iraq, between a quarter and a third of its territory. Lethality and murder, displacement and the attack on the components of the Iraqi people in general, and on Iraqi minorities like Christians, in particular, Yazidis and Sabean not to forget the Muslims, all practices for «Daash».

About all of that, we came inform message, that in Jeddah, Paris or New York and the general international community, and the effect that the problem that struck Iraq is not an Iraqi - an Iraqi. It is true that in Iraq, and the target is Iraq, which is the day the trench first, but not the final trench. Trenches next confrontation after Iraq are countries in the region and even Europe, and especially to those who participate under the banner of «Daash» are from different countries of the world, why do not exercise this role in their respective countries and the countries of the world?

I say that we do not wish them to Evtkoa including Vtkna him. But ethics and literature «Daash» excludes countries that do not penetrate and when none of the countries, what hit him is purely humanitarian objectives: temples, mosques, schools, restaurants and housing.

This was the first message that comes on all of what happened in Iraq. For our part, we took on the fundamental changes: political charter was agreed upon by the political parties who have confirmed that they are determined to put Iraq on the outskirts of a new phase can accommodate all parties, without exception, and benefit from the mistakes of the past and move forward. We have begun the essential first step on the stage which is the formation of a unity government involving all parties without exception.

* But have so far remained incomplete ..

- The government will be completed very soon.

* Ministers candidates for the defense and interior ministries rejection?

- Badan the finest in the world, there is a bilateral (legislative and executive branches). Sometimes the two authorities agree, sometimes disagree, and this is a tradition in the global political custom. In any case, the government will be complete soon.

Another step dealing with what we want from our friends, whether they are from neighboring countries or beyond neighboring countries or the international community and international organizations in a maximum of a United Nations umbrella. In the Iraqi case, the purpose is to confront terrorism on our side as long as it does not target Iraq only. We do not want their children to fight instead of our children. What we want is air cover, weapons and logistical support commensurate with the scale of the challenge to preserve Iraq's sovereignty and national security, and performance. What we want air umbrella commensurate with the nature of the challenge is located. This is a summary of the objectives that we seek. And then, as you know, there are human tragedies because of the displacement that happened from 3 provinces (Mosul, Salahuddin and Anbar, as well as internal displacement in Diyala), and, therefore, what we want to assign international and rehabilitation of infrastructure due to vandalism, which resolved by the entry «Daash».

* What do you expect from practically the Security Council meeting today? Is there a search is underway for a new resolution of the UN Security Council, for example, on the face of terrorism and Iraq serve as a cover for the current international operations or that will take place in Iraq, and may open the door to Syria?

- The atmosphere of the United Nations is ready, and the situation in this way sufficient in terms of overall, there's solidarity with Iraq. Paris conference included countries in the 5 permanent members of the UN Security Council, in addition to other states, all of which are focused and talked enough and had shown understanding about what is happening in Iraq, also showed a distinct response to us. And found the opportunity because the most prominent faces may not be clear enough. But in general, I was grateful for the response that happened with us, and they Oharona that what is happening in Iraq is going well in their respective countries. These countries may vary in forms of support, but on the whole is to support the military, humanitarian, a service and support for reconstruction.

Will be our message to the United Nations in more detail as long as the largest number of participating countries and the highest level of participation, and it is natural that we began to communicate with him in Jeddah, passing through Paris, and the end of New York.

* Are you planned station Jeddah comma in the nature of dealing with the Iraqi crisis?

- Certainly, what I heard from Prince Saud Al-Faisal, Minister of Foreign Affairs, as well as from other foreign ministers who attended, including the secretary of state, was very encouraging. And I've got a personal meeting with Prince Saud al-Faisal, has talked for nearly half an hour, then listened to the speeches at the meeting, which was administered. It was an opportunity to export Bamadaminh statement did not differ from the general statement that it went out of the Paris Conference.

* Is it possible to say that there is a shift in dealing with the Iraqi crisis, the Gulf?

- Yes, there is a sharp turn between contraction and the absence of dealing with the Iraqi file and the rush of unconditional «to support us». I want to point especially to that Prince Saud al-Faisal told me personally «in Jeddah», he decided to open a Saudi embassy in Baghdad, and then repeat it in the conference in front of everyone and said, I told Iraqi Foreign Minister our intention to open the embassy and to proceed with its work.

* What is understood from the statement issued by the Paris conference that he remained at the level of principles and did not come out with practical steps. Is the cause differences in viewpoints present?

- Can not be expected that the Paris conference as a conference in this issue and in this short time to enter in the details, especially the things that the logistical and practical steps to be taken in the field left to the professionals. Did not expect the conference to go beyond the emphasis on the provision of military support at the level of supply and air cover. The details and the movement of aircraft and how and where and when to start .. all that is left to the specialists on the ground. You know that it has begun sorties French reconnaissance .. these military measures are not put at a meeting of foreign ministers, as they are not officers at a military base to give the orders to move to certain military cuts. But on the whole, as regards the sensitive matters of a strategic nature, came the words all «delivered at the conference» uniform: support for Iraq and the valuation of its position and its response and condemnation of what happened and chapter by chapter frank between what practiced «Daash» and between Islam, which of them is innocent.

* Among those who will help Iraq militarily, it is the entity that will coordinate the process? Who is the body that will appoint the goals and give orders? Will there be a joint operations room to coordinate military actions?

- Without a doubt. Earth is Iraq. Iraq and the victim is and we want to be the spearhead. So, contexts require coordination with the field is on the ground. We Almtcoln not Kalzqaly comforters. We know the earth, nature and the strengths and weaknesses, and therefore the field secrete the Iraqi issue and the mechanisms of Iraq without the other is not from the site of favoritism, but in terms of the difference objective between attending to the ground and faces objectives, risks, and between the supports and assigns albeit attributed whatever.

Once again, the Iraqi party can not be out for the management and coordination of the detailed basic coordination. As for the details and the composition and the number of Iraqi officers and who represents all of these things will be handled by leaders in the field of both parties: the Iraqi and Althalfa.

* How many people were surprised that the Iraqi army, which it spent billions retreat and retreat generally «Daash» did not indicate the strength and effectiveness in combat. The mother blames it? Is selection? Mental? Is the lack of fighting spirit?

- All these reasons, met together. Even the army is already an army must have a doctrine and military hierarchy and taking into account a series of mattresses between the upper, middle and lower, must be the so-called military language; military discipline. All of these things was clouded weakness also bear a lot of corruption in the state departments of years ago and which, inter alia, on the military side.

When they are not military commanders healthy «immune» about this case, you can not expect to be a military commander, a model of a soldier in battle. I do not say that corruption hit all the leaders but hit quite a few of them. It is natural that the soldier does not trust these leaders. Therefore bear them horror. For a soldier, do not ask for the weapon, but ask about the hand that holds the weapon and the belief that Tlguenha from carrying arms.

* Do you think that the Iraqi forces alone in a field alongside the Peshmerga forces, will be able to restore the land and villages and cities dominated by «Daash» such as the city of Mosul?

- International support for securing air cover, the concept of a multi-Almassadik armed forces: the army, the Peshmerga, the National Guard, troops crowd .. all fall under the banner of the Iraqi armed forces and receives orders from military leaders. Objectives and one of its factions, although there were many. We build on the basis of the armed forces and trained with the provinces, as it proved to us that in the battle of confrontation with «Daash» particular, there must be an existing national forces local provinces themselves, do not come out of the province to another province that would create problems like internal interference. If the citizens of the city defended their city and the people of Mecca know the twists, then they will find in their movement pattern and responsive integrated with the rest of the factions of the Iraqi army, and especially that they will work within the brigades.

* Mr. Muqtada al-Sadr is OK to foreign interference in Iraqi affairs and the establishment of an international coalition and the return of the American forces .. and this proposal would weaken the Iraqi consensus .. How do you explain the position of the chest?

- He did not refuse this thing, but said that foreign intervention and foreign bases and the return of all of this to Iraq, we do not accept it. We said from the Jeddah Conference, we can not accept what we rejected previously. We Nthashah since 2003 and there is a common national position to come dismissive of foreign troops on Iraqi soil. If you ask me: Do you accept the presence of foreign troops on the ground? The answer is both.

* But foreign forces present in the atmosphere?

- That's another topic .. Today could have to give her field and tomorrow can prevent them. The interference of foreign forces that «grounded» and reigned and able and evaluate rules and positioned in certain places, after it will not be easy to end its existence. So we were careful not to get this matter and we asked a long time ago to bring the armed forces «foreign» from Iraq. Is not easy, we will be mortgaging the Iraqi national under occupation or even the mere presence of a military base «foreign» in Iraq. Moukna this constant does not change.

Yes, today, we are asking for today is to support the air because the nature of an unequal battle. Armed Forces is recovering, and the enemy has international support. Is globalized, as the «Daash» is not a phenomenon nor an Iraqi-Iraqi Arab or Iraqi regional only. But it is a global phenomenon, globalized and multinational. Of course, the response must be comparable and commensurate with the attack, which we are exposed. We ask for support, but do not want to turn this temporary support to the controlling case on the ground.

* But do you think there is a commitment to a new security agreement with the American side?

- Our Strategic Framework Agreement and its terms are known. They include a commitment to defense of the United States for the sovereignty and integrity of Iraq. I start you oppose agreement «in the first format» because it was carrying degrading conditions «for Iraq». But after it was modified and approved by the Parliament, and despite conservative interacted with them, and now is the time commitment it. Today, the land of Iraq in violation. Iraq violator of human being as well as sovereignty.

* Do Tkdemtem a formal request to France for military assistance, noting that Paris wants a formal written letter to this effect in order to be compatible with the rules-driven interaction between countries?

- Formal written letter is not a problem. He said Iraqi Prime Minister explicitly, when he was in Baghdad, the French president, we need to cover to prop up our air and expressed it frankly.

* How do you explain the Turkish position today, where it seems that Ankara is eager to stay in the rear lines?

- We understand the position of Turkey, at least let us know so that by the Foreign Minister now, the problem is that there are nearly 50 of the diplomatic staff of the Turkish consulate in Mosul, in the grip of terrorism, and therefore they feel they are in front of a humanitarian catastrophe for them. I attended a conference in Turkey Jeddah, also at the Paris conference, but they have dealt a way that allows them to get a human tragedy avoiding dealing with their subjects.

* But in Jeddah did not sign the statement of the meeting?

- We understand their position. We believe that they are with us in the rear, but they have to reconcile between the two responsibilities. Support for Iraq and defending «Daash» by and avoid the problem that may afflict them in case of crossed this limit by another.

* You need the United States, but also the need for Iran. The fact that these two countries are cooperating in Iraq and face each other in Syria. How Iraq can reconcile these two sides?

- Though they are different, but they do not face the problem of inside them, but some of the Arab countries.

* What?

- Meant that some Arab countries made ​​reservations to attend the conference Jeddah Iran, as well as the Paris Conference. We made ​​efforts to overcome this obstacle, but it seems that the time was not to our advantage, as it was expanding its efforts to short even melt the ice between these countries and Iran. Iran is located on the ground. Iran is a neighboring country geographically, and we have 1400 kilometers of common border. It was her supervisor's position throughout this period. Iraq supported the media and political and humanitarian, service and.

* The military also .. Iranian officials themselves assert that?

- All of these contexts refer to it as a state sponsor, and we do not believe that it can call on neighboring countries to stand by our side and exclude Iran. The question is not: Why bring Iran, but the question is why do not you attend?

* Reasons unknown .. is not it?

- We do not want Iraq sharp point of intersection between these countries. But we want confluence station. We will work in this policy and our inability to him and prevented be achieved now, has expanded his future, God willing.

* How do you see you today as a government, the future of Iraq to the Syrian issue in the light of what is the case with you?

- For «Daash» are the same in Iraq and Syria. And therefore can not reject «Daash» in Iraq and we embrace in Syria as long as their goals are humanitarian objectives. Syrians children, as children in Iraq .. minorities here and there.

But there is a problem in the regional and international situation of the Syrian regime. For our part, we do not want to politicize the battle. In Syria, as in Iraq. There is a party is the culprit and this party is «Daash». Let's grade as regional and international levels to counter the threat «Daash» and assume its responsibilities in the face of this threat, as well as the need to confront the danger Aldaasha in Syria. The fact that there are differences with the government «Syrian», the differences of these other contexts. We had our disagreements with the Iraqi government and we have created a solution by political means.

* But in Syria, civilians are the victims of «Daash», but they are also victims of the system.

- There is a fundamental difference between what is happening in Iraq and what happened in Syria, at least from the point of international will and some regional countries.

Now we have to face this common threat. First, with Syria, with Iraq and with the overlap on the ground between what is happening in Iraq and what is happening in Syria. Can not prevent interference when the pace of rise of terrorism in Daraa, Syria pan. This impact on Iraq. When leaked these terrorist factions, had an impact on Syria. So we can not separate the causes and results of the two sides.

Yes, there is the problem of dealing with coordination with the Government you yourself are not recognized by «Syrian government». This problem must be solved.

* How can that be solved?

- In my opinion, should be separation between the political axis and the axis humanitarian and security, especially because you will not enter and occupy the rules and control the land, but targeting factions «Daash» and the headwaters of the leak individuals of «Daash» then have contributed to the parties of Syria and Iraq. Even in Syria, should look at it in the medium and long term and look at how to solve the dilemma with Syria. As a result, the Syrian regime, whatever its own observations, may be capable of understanding with him in any way and not principles like the former Iraqi. I do not say that there are no notes, but not key observations on the Syrian regime. But this is a matter of dialogue and rally the capacity to search for a solution.

* In other words, you say: The system remains and Tfahmua with him ..

- I can not speak on behalf of the Syrian people. What I do know that there is a section «people» and another section with him. Because of this division, we say that we do not interfere in the case of the same people different about them. We are not a substitute for the Syrian people and their cause has abandoned the regime Let us bless him. If not satisfied with the system Fletjaozh.

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